I hope the search bar on the right doesn't automatically goto msn search. The user should get to select the search engine on startup the first time.

Looks Interesting, I wonder if it will match Firefox and Opera?

This...is...Garbage.

i smell Fear
I see Safari
Am i looking in a mirror?

um, maybe it's just me, but are you sure that's an IE shot? That looks a lot like FireFox.

its not firefox, although the layout is similar, look at the icons below, those are IE icons...

Gee, so much negativity.. All you assholes can stick to your sick Netscape and firefox. At least wait for the final shot

You know that Microsoft are trying to get the Mac friendly crowd when they drop the menu bar as low as they can to get the address & search bars just below the title bar just like Safari.

P.S. Jax, I use an IE based browser, and intend to forever more.

SAFARI CLONE!!!!!

Looks like an IE toolbar that I saw at http://www.analogreality.com/IEAddons/RssAutoDiscovery.htm

i think firefox look safari and now iexplore look like firefox. But i want more perfomance from this browsers.

Total ripoff of Firefox and other browsers. Microsoft waits around until someone releases a better product then rips them off! IE should be banned from the internet.

posters above (and later below) are tools, plain and simple.

It's always funny to watch all those people writing and speaking how much they hate microsoft. I've been usin MS IE for a long time, but lately (for a year) I'm a Firefox user, what DOESN'T MEEN I hate MS, I just use browser, witch is the best for me. Now it's Firefox, but after IE7 release it may be IE, or even something other.
BTW I like that blue bar between adress and icons. :)

As long as IE is rooted in the operating system end no floating on top of it it will be crap because it will get you infected really BAD. IE will always suck. Especially when security issues are not fixed in time by Microsoft. I don't hate Microsoft. I just thing they made a BIG mistake integrating the webbrowser in Windows. As long as this is the case, IE will suck and be insecure. Firefox is just a better browser. Use it, customise it and you will never look back.

i think you need to wake up.
FireFox ripped some of MS's stuff from IE. Also your saying its going to be ***, but have you used it yet? Thought not. Plus josh if you dont have any browser in windows how you ever going to go on the internet and get another browser? See its noobs like you that should just go home and play with your little firefox browser, ready to join the big kids yet?

Re: Boo

haha heard of ftp? Firefox can be downoaded via ftp without your pathetic internet explorer hahaha

Looks similar to Firefox. IE will never become the official Inerter browser...it's to slow and too flawed.

Some idiot said:
"Total ripoff of Firefox and other browsers. Microsoft waits around until someone releases a better product then rips them off! IE should be banned from the internet."

Yes m8, thats why MS are the biggest software company in the World. friggin n00b

IE, 92% of all internet users CANNOT be wrong.

Firefox suxor

Yes 92% of users but part of them does not have the choice (at work) and the rest does not know the choice.

Firefox rocks

It sure looks like firefox. Why do they always take the market after that is deployed (from internet to operating system to browsers). Don't they have their own Ideas. Will IE7 have themes and extensions, I doubt it. As they want to keep their browser look alike in all computers. That way firefox/mozilla, etc. wins the game, You Have it Your Way.

Firefox is so much better then IE. IE sucks and Bill Gates is just trying to make a good browser by using Mozilla's great ideas.

To late IE, allready Firefox, and never going back to IE.

First of all. Firefox doesn't have any kind of orginallity. Even rendering engine is from Netscape, design is very similar to Safari. So where is problem? And now more and more pople using Fireflop, more security holes were discovered. Fireflop is poor copy.

IE Sucks!

This just shows you that Firefox is already gaining popularity with its great ideas and *poof* Bill Gates just made a copy of it on IE7 which millions of users know that this is a rip-off.

I hope MS actually repects internet standards this time, I design websites alot, and making it work for IE is a huge pain. It renders everything wrong. Im never going back to IE, it is honestly a horrible program (+ That search at the top[Obviously copied from Opera and FF, is probably only compatable with MSN.)

well, as usual, Microsoft is following idea from other developers... Firefox rocks... Apple rocks... Microsoft sucks!!!

Microsoft THE BEST!

Okay, classic story: some news about Microsoft stuff and the anti-MS posts are coming up. Well, I guess that's pretty normal otherwise these people would feel sick :-d.

Now my opinion: quite some people don't know what they're talking about. Let's point out. IE7 is improving on two fields:

First of all, additions to the feature set. Why? Well, people ask features, they get features. And I agree sometimes it takes longer than expected, but okay that's how things are. I'm not a favorite of tab-based browsing (I'm a huge fan of ALT-TAB, CTRL-N, I don't need tabs) but people ask this en masse, so they can get it. On the other hand I'm a fan of RSS, people like to have an integrated RSS reader, so they get it. And when there's something new coming up again in a couple of months, years, ... well it will be there too (in yet another release, in updates, in add-ons, etc).

The second improvement is on the field of security. Let's start with an axiom: the real secure browser simply doesn't exist. Internet is a pain in the *** of security, because of various reasons, one of these being the coexistence of data (HTML, DHTML, CSS, etc) and instructions (scripts, applets, ActiveX, etc) in the same "entity" (page). Well, that's actually a feature but a damn difficult one to live with (as a developer) to get it secure. Think about script injection attacks, think of malicious scripts, and so on (yeah, even (oink?) FireFox has had - and will have in the future - several issues with this). Now, what can be done against this? One is of course writing better code, doing code reviews, etc and Microsoft is taking this very serious in various internal security pushes. The other one is reducing the malicious things an exploit can do. How? One is running with lower privileges, but that's "utopian thinking" as home users tend to be running as admin all the time ("they need to be able to install new applications, baby, so how to do without admin privileges in a simple way?"). So, IE7 and Longhorn are taking the other way in the reverse way: allow apps to isolate themselves in a "low privilege sandbox". If there's an attack or some malicious code coming in, well it can't do a thing.

And the reaction about taking ideas from others. Look at the complete list of products and technologies of Microsoft and of other vendors. Everyone is taking ideas from the other ones. And if you're the biggest software company in the words, well the list of things that might look similar to "features of other guys" can indeed be long.

About the theorems (allow me to call it like that) "IE sucks", "Bill Gates made a copy of Firefox", "FireFox is so much better than IE" I can only say one thing: for a very large portion it's a matter of taste. And never say never ("never going back to IE").

And to finish with, an inline reaction on one particular post:

>As long as IE is rooted in the operating system end no floating on top of it it will be crap because it will get you infected really BAD.

Reaction: there are even people who believe IE is in the kernel of Windows :o. You simple are wrong. IE is an application, it's coming with the OS in the package but it's not sitting inside "critical systems of the OS". It's running in application mode, just like FireFox for example. No magic involved. And no, it's not because Windows Explorer has an address bar that can be used to type URLs that IE is sitting in the deep dark parts of the OS: Windows Explorer is running in application mode too. So, I hope this can clarify things.

>IE will always suck. Especially when security issues are not fixed in time by Microsoft.

Security is top priority number one of Microsoft and no that isn't just "marketing talk". It's living in the minds out there in Redmond, believe me. The number of security reviews is increasing day after day and that's just great. Patch management is becoming better and better (new Microsoft Update, BITS technology, auto update, WSUS for enterprises, the SMS server product, etc).

>I don't hate Microsoft.

Hating people or companies is just wrong. So I'm happy to hear you're not one of the "haters" :-).

>I just thing they made a BIG mistake integrating the webbrowser in Windows. As long as this is the case, IE will suck and be insecure.
Well, I explained this earlier. It's coming WITH the OS, just like Notepad, Patience and Windows Explorer ;-). Maybe it's better to say it's more accessible than other applications that come with the OS by default.

>Firefox is just a better browser. Use it, customise it and you will never look back.

I used it, I customized it, I felt ill and looked back :-). So, a matter of taste I guess? By the way, the number of security threats for FireFox is growing too. As popularity grows, an application is more interesting for attackers, and attacks just come.

One list idea of mine: don't look for originality in the world of computers today. Once one company or guy has implemented something, others are copying it (not only Microsoft :p). That's just reality...

The day Microsoft respects the CSS standards I may reconsider my opinion about this crappy browser. As CP says, designing websites is a real pain in the ass whith IE specificities for rendering CSS.

safari what?
fire what?
ie what?

its all aboiut konquror. plain and simple...

Nemo: of course 92% of pplz use IE especially when it COMES with windows and most people who use computers daily are office workers and the like, thats y IE is the most used browser. If firefox wuz bundled with windows instead of IE then it would say 92% use firefox, you cant live by statistics that are obviously rigged ur fruitcake.

G4u kain, u got the right thin goin... LINUX ALL DA WAY

"FireFox - Stop spreadig Lies"

IE Rules....Period.

I was expecting to see a lot of microsoft fan boys around, this being a site for M$ groupies afterall, but i am astounded at just how utterly useless most of the comments posted actually are

from

"well, as usual, Microsoft is following idea from other developers... Firefox rocks... Apple rocks... Microsoft sucks!!!"

to

""FireFox - Stop spreadig Lies"

IE Rules....Period."

and topped off with helpings of

"See its noobs like you that should just go home and play with your little firefox browser, ready to join the big kids yet?"

Heh, i like the server uptime record at the bottom of the page, 10 days! :D

seriously though, you really could do with some moderation if this place is ever going to be able to harbour interesting or intelligent discussion.

The minimize, (un)maximize, and close buttons look like Gnome's Clearlooks theme.

I have been using PC's since 1992, just to let you know I am not a "noob". I am glad to see that IE is getting updated to make it more secure. Although I do not use IE as my main browser, it is important to have IE as secure as possible.

Bart, you make it sound like IE is an application just like any other and not tied to the kernel. While this is strictly true it is also a bit misleading as it is not just an ordinary application. Since IE4, it has also integrated it's self into the desktop and provided ActiveX controls. Doing so created many potential security problems for which you have been in a constant battle to patch all the holes over the years.

Also many developers take advantage of ActiveX and other code libraries provided by IE to integrate into their applications. There is also the fact that Windows Update cannot be done in another browser.

IE is not just another app as you make it sound like. It has been made into an essential integrated part of the OS.

I agree that everyone is "borrowing" good ideas from everyone else it would just be silly and stupid not to do so. The difference is that Microsoft will take a good idea from the wild and turn around and put a patent pending on it in an attempt to deprive and deter the others from further use. I site the desktop paging patent as the latest example, that feature has been on *nix for many years.

As for the browser that I prefer, Firefox, the reason I use it is that it is hands down superior to IE. That is not just an opinion, that is an observation. Because of the very nature of the way that it is developed, XML (and not proprietary XML) programmers can create plugins to further enhance the browser. There are already a plethora of add-on's that far out match any add-on's that have been created for IE. This is the "roll your own" approach as opposed to the "let us lead the cattle" approach that permeates the MS paradigm.

It is also far superior to IE in CSS standards compliance, it is just infuriating for me to have to run javascript just to compensate for MS's attempt to lead the way to internet standards by using the whip of proprietary standards and it's refusal to meet W3C standards.

I am sure that the next IE will be better and more secure than the present one but there is no way that it will ever be a better browser than Firefox simply because of the attitudes, mind sets and paradigms used in the creative process that produces it. That is unless MS can pull it's self away from it's narcissism to actually think about becoming standards compliant and user flexibility.

looks sweet. I hope the new version 7 will still run the firefox toolbar. it rocks.
http://members.shaw.ca/s.w.tinga/get_foxed.html

Can't be firefox. Firefox is total crap. If it had been firefox they would have had a picture of a piece of crap smeared on the screen

To AmazedByLevelOfBinkVisitors: You obviously don't do any system administration. Uptime has nothing to do with anything significant. Look at Slashdot's uptime. Just rebooted a little over a month ago. Moron. Get of my Internet.

dsforsaken: You must be another one of those screaming faggot OSS zealot monkeys. Have a good time suckin Linus's *** last night?

Firefox ripped ideas from Opera, Netscape and IE. It's the lovechild of all three. It's hardly new or original.

In fact I'd go as far as saying Firefox sux and OPERA RULEZ DA PLANET BEATCHES!!! :D

IE rulez. Thanks to IE i now get huge discounts on v1agra, and an endless supply of free p0rn pop-ups. I never have to search for teen-p0rn again; all i do is connect to the net and it's there! Needless to say my reProductivity has never been better. ;-) Opps... another pop-up appeared, time to go whack off again.

IE users were exposed to unpatched vulnerabilities 200 days in 2004. Those using Firefox were exposed to unpatched vulnerabilities a total of 26 days in 2004 -but in all cases firefox was patched before hackers had time to take advantage of these vulnerabilities.
http://forums.infoprosjoint.net/showthread.php?t=7322

Guys, saying one browser ripped the interface off of another one is completely, just, idk, F*CKING RETARTED?!?!?!?!

They all look the same, ever since MOSIAC. It looks like a browser, firefox looks like a browser, ya'know, Address Bar on top. Lets just hope they fix the bugs... (which FF does have btw)

For the Safari fans, I hate to break it to you, but it's not as original as you all think. Apple is using the khtml backend from the Konquerer/KDE browser. IE and Firefox can both be linked back to Mosaic.

Personally, I use Firefox because I need a quality cross-platform browser and IE does not meet my requirements.

Let me laugh ... IE ...

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

More than 35% of knowledge.
Less than 65% of unconsciousness.

That's the facts.

Share your knowledge!

I'd say crowmag hits the bullseye in this thread. If a browser can't comply with internet standards, it is flawed. I use Firefox on BeOS 5.0 and it is solid, stable and easy to use.

... always the same ... there are news from MS and the lots of INTERNERDS start posting a lot of trash. They will always use Un*x's and all that weird staff, but a lot of people want a EASY-to-use system,.. konqueror, kde??... gnome..??.. are the same as IE, but done in a very poor way... are slow and complex. I think Firefox is a good browser enough compatible and fast and his growing has made MS revised IE, but that sentences like "IE sucks.."... mm... IE in XP SP2 is enough fast and secure, let's wait IE7 which we'll be even better. (PD: usually one NERD post about MS is enough, please clean the rest...)

Well, I'm curious to how it really feels. For me, I guess I'll try it out before deciding on whether I'll use it or not.

I use firefox, and I'm sticking by it no matter what IE7 can come out with!

Internet Explorer 7 will be here, and it will rule! 90% of worldwide internet users (which use IE6) will automatically switch to IE7. Bye bye Firefox, Mozilla, Opera etc. Hello IE7- your new companion.

Microsoft doesn't give a *** about your security. Case in point: When you go to a webpage(or for that matter, do pretty much anything) in IE, that page is stored in a cache file in your system. You probably haven't seen said file. That's because you can't see it, even in Windows Explorer. The only way to get to (and clear it? Perish the thought!) it is to reboot Windows in safe mode and perform several complicated steps that I don't remember precisely, as I haven't had to since starting to use Firefox. Some would argue that this file is there as a safety precaution, but if it were, why would Microsoft hide it so well? If you don't believe me about this, please feel free to look it up yourself, but it's a fairly well-kept secret.

My point is, anybody competent enough with computers could get to this file and use whatever the contents are against you. Come on, people. You can't tell me the fact that IE records your -every action- online doesn't scare you at least a little bit.

For all of you who boast about the stats that IE has think on this. Since McDonalds servers the most people, is it the best place to get food in the world. Just because it comes with most computer sold in the world that does not make IE great. I like FF, and I am willing to admit that it is a *** child of netscape, but it is all a matter of choice in the end. One could always argue that FF in a memory whore, but you know I don't run many apps at one time so it does not matter. IE is just made available to most people. Easily and ready to use is what I am getting after. And in the end it is the same internet, just a different icon for a picture that can't be found

Screw em all.... Nothing renders better than Lynx.

Why ppl talk hit before asking what happen, one thing if Firefox or any other Browser was given with Windows Box, would it be less Insecure?? sure not, there is no 100% Secure Browser since they all run under Windows, none is less than the other except for the how much and wich quality service they offer, sit and relax, its just like someone said about taste, and learning from eachothers mistakes to make better product is not a Crime but a Knowledge.
I would love to see Microsoft giving open source, thats the only dark point but how are they going to pay those guys making those softs... Hope IE 7 will render better than the others..

So really M$ is just copying Firefox. . Stealing idea again.. what else is new? Well Looking forward to patches because of imcomplete and shitty code that's what. . I'm lovin it!

I feel that some people need to really not get so worked up about browsers, indeed some of you guys are starting to sound like the children who cry "my Mac's the best" or "my PC is the best". Just grow up and try not to let emotion cloud your judgement.

My first proof why ie sucks
http://toadstool.se/journal/images/friends-dont-let-friends-use-ie.jpg
my second is: I just did a speed test ony my firefox 1.0.5 test build and my laptop on IE cause dad won't let me load firefox on it now when i did a speed test to ebgames.com my firefox took around 2 1.5 seconds to load and it took about 10 seconds for IE to load. My firefox is customized with the faster speed the http piplining set to 30 for fast oad time.
My third proof: When firefox found that big security flaw they had 1.0.4 out in about 2 weeks fixing tht problem.
Now IE will make patches for security flaws but next thing you know there are more flaws from those patches.
Thereis my proof. Plus Deer Park firefox which is really nice is coming out soon been using alpha sice it came out.

Also forgot to mention i nver have to use IE to dl firefox i made a custom windows install disc that auto installs firefox for mme just so i do'nt have to put up with IE. The only thing i use ie for is to get windows update and thats all.

Well, seeing all the comments here makes me wish IE will have a built-in spell checker in the next version ;)

I'm spelling bad because it's 3:14 a.m. in the morning and i'm about ready to fall asleep but i usually spell really well. Firefox does have spell checker plugin.

[quote]
Internet Explorer 7 will be here, and it will rule! 90% of worldwide internet users (which use IE6) will automatically switch to IE7. Bye bye Firefox, Mozilla, Opera etc. Hello IE7- your new companion.[/quote]

So you're saying that 90% of the people using IE6 today (about 89% of all internet users) will switch to IE7? Cool, that's an extra 10% people switching to Firefox and Opera then

It's really pathetic to see people argue and *** over what the best browser is. Who f*cking cares!? Everybody uses what they like the best. Respect that and leave it at that.

The use of IE is a stupidity as it is the most obsolete browser out there. It is unsecure, evry worm makes its way to enter via IE or Outlook to infect your Windows. With firefox all this is avoided right away plus you can watch pages without adverts using some extensions. No spyware can harm you. Does IE all this stuff? Of course not. IE is for stupids.

hehe,its not IE it's safari in osX
ie can suck this!! FireFox is best IE have NOT Extension but firefox have !! a powerfull pluginS

Fireflop is nothing. It's only a temporary "browser". No, it is not secure, look at secunia.com. And waht more, Fireflop is really slow application and have idiotic memmory consuption. Just try to surf the web about 6 hours and you will see. I tryed Fireflop and no thanks I stay with Internet Explorer.

Huh... "IE sux, no Firefox sux, no Opera sux, no Safari sux..." What the ***? Grow up guys! Use your favorite browser and stop writing that *** all the time! Give a break...

Quote: One list idea of mine: don't look for originality in the world of computers today. Once one company or guy has implemented something, others are copying it (not only Microsoft :p). That's just reality...

Its the reality in the business world, no matter the field. :P

I just love people who pose as intellectuals, but can't seem to find the spell-check or punctuation on their pcs. These are the opinions that REALLY matter!!!

Best browser? Here: http://zybex.front.ru

Ones favourite browser is just a matter of taste. The savest browser is not a matter of taste, it has been proven that FireFox is the savest at the moment.

I can't tell much about this screenshot yet, because it is a little vague, but it looks ALOT like FireFox...

-quote-
Fireflop is nothing. It's only a temporary "browser". No, it is not secure, look at secunia.com. And waht more, Fireflop is really slow application and have idiotic memmory consuption. Just try to surf the web about 6 hours and you will see. I tryed Fireflop and no thanks I stay with Internet Explorer.
-/qutoe-

Then suffer with all the other idiots :)

why is it, that ppl are soo extreme about stupid ***.."IE SUX...FIREFOX IS MY LOVER!!!!!"....
Seriously...ppl....get a life...

On a note related to the pic..that looks exactly like the Mac browser...minus those icons...which I wonder if they can be added....

Either way...ppl...go get a life..ok..thx

"Safari sux, IE sux, Firefox sux, Opera sux" blah blah blah...
Jeez, everyone has their favorite browser. But actually, FF is PCWorld.com's nr. 1 software of the year. Opera is far down there, IE or Safari ain't there at all... If IE is so much more secure than FF, why come with those constant patches? To those who still thinks IE is the best, can you prove it, rather than saying "loflol, omg jiiz, firesocks sux, IE forever"?
The FF fans at least have a reason for that FF are best!

And Opera is a pretty good browser too, but both Safari, IE, and FF are free.

I have not tested Safari yet, but it's sure a good program after what I've heard.

Each one's favorite browser is their problem, but it's actually proven that Firefox is best.

SpreadFireFox.com - ignitting the web!

IE != free, u pay for it while buying windows

It is definitely not free. Free would be global freedom across all computer aspects.

that is a complete rip off of safari and firefox. you can really see the resemblance, and in the end it is just safari looks, firefox features, IE security flaws. what more can i say?

Hahah... I've tried Firefox and other stupid browser... knowing that I will get back to IE and yes... IE is the bes other browsers just steal space from the hard drive for nothing :))))))

people are so retarded..IE does suck, it's been 4 years since they had a major update to it...and yes, 92% of internet users CAN be wrong, considering the number of computer-illiterate people that think they know so much, like the people on here saying IE is better..take a damn computer class to educate your dumb selves...

Hehe... I love you people attacking eachother.... you should simply stay with
Firefox 1.05 or Deerpark or Camino and it's all ok!!.. and...
You all Microsh!t lovers: obviously Microsoft IE7 will have all the features of Firefox!! WHY? Copy-Paste!!! Firefox is OpenSource, and like EVERY APP of Microsoft: Its a clone of the true application, with the "microsoft" in the title... :D

So... STOP TELLING STUPID THINGS... Just stick with Firefox and a SAFARI theme, ok?

Ah, you have got old info, matt, 81% of the users use MS IE...

it doesnt make sence to be arguing about products that any of the companies are making dont give a *** if you use it to wipe your ass with it ,bottom line,use whatever works for you.and all this nonsense about copying,everybody copies you are wearing clothes becouse you are copying someone if you didnt then you would wear anything,its all about inovation personaly i like firefox bet for now;) if IE is better wherther or not they copied then i be all for it

As a follow-up to my previous post, there are also keys in all post-Win95 builds of Windows which are essentially backdoors that the United States National Security Agency can access at any time. Make of this what you will, but I'd rather not surf the internet in fear of the government breathing down my neck all the time.

Some idiot said:

"Yes m8, thats why MS are the biggest software company in the World. friggin n00b".

MS is not the biggest software company in the world, IBM is. MS is the richest software company in the world, not the biggest.

Idiot.

Look Like Firefox or Firefox?

If Leo Laporte recomends firefox over IE then there must be something wrong with IE. Like all the holes in ActiveX scripting, which is how most people get spyware, adware, etc.

well... why bother about a browser that doesn't run under Linux ? ;-)

You should try alternatives and minorities like Opera and Firefox.
Forget IE7, 8, 9 etc. 'til its mainline and majority...
Think a bit - why...

Well each to their own one persons trash is anothers treasure freedom of choice gives one the right to choose so choose which you like and be happy they all have faults nothing is perfect but they are all tring to improve which is what we all want

> Because somebody invented the wheel, another car cannot uses it?
Does it work the other way around ?

Of, course MS has gone on record saying that IE7 will only come with their next release of Windows - it won't be available for Windows XP or 2003.

How many childish posts can there be in one topic? Why all this "my stick is bigger than your stick" business? It's pathetic.

I await IE7 without baited breath, if they improve W3C standards, and tighten security further, I would consider a return to the browser. I doubt it would be secure enough to my liking, but we'll see.

IE sucks.
1. It is slow
2. ActiveX controls
3. Adware, spyware, blahblahblah

Even if it is IE7. What is the improvement? RSS? Tabs? wow, nice security

As for Safari users : we know that Safari and Konqueror share KHTML. So what ? Developpers of both browsers benefit from this and Safari chief developper has a lot of friends and ex-colleagues among Firefox devs with whom a lot of ideas are shared, improved and integrated in those browsers in one way or another.
At last, all can be summarize to 2 camps : one that respect standards, try to steadily improve its products while keeping them secure, light, open, smooth, efficient and easy to third parties to improve... and the other : IE.

At least, IE 7 will be a welcome improvement over IE 6, i am just sad it takes so much time to MS to get it partially standard compliant and on par feature-wise with other browsers.

those who don't know what they are yapping about need to sftu, if you don't like the way ms does things don't f*cking use it. Plain and simple. All this B*tching and whining. How old are you people? 3 maybe 4.

Message to all IE Users: i have embedded some activeX script into this comment which has now infected your computer. Thank you for using Internet Explorer BEEEACHES! :D j/k

"those who don't know what they are yapping about need to sftu, if you don't like the way ms does things don't f*cking use it. Plain and simple. All this B*tching and whining. How old are you people? 3 maybe 4."

Based on your evident mastery of the English language, O Shakespeare Junior, I would guess your age to be six or seven at the most. Advice: Insert foot into mouth.

When browsers and operating systems become a religion for you it's a sad commentary on your existence. Please get out there and create something of your own...and then, just mabye, you'll be able to critique another's work with perspective.

Most of you vicious critics just clock in and get a paycheck, while others are putting in countless hours building companies and products.

Product strategy is so much more complex than you think. Timing, budget, strategy and resource variables must be considered.

Thank you Bart for supplying the thoughtful commentary in this form!

Looks similar to Firefox. IMO

damn , everyone should stop fanboying insert <browsername> and just realise that just blagging on how much better your browser is , is plainly a waste of time we all have our own preferences for browsing , personally i like ie over the others. But hey i enjoy many ms products. if you feel so badly about this sort of stuff then go buy a mac that way u can avoid ms all the way and stay out of the way of the windows users who disagree with your points of view.

Never had a problem with IE, can't foresee it ever happening either, just so long as you have a 3rd party prog blocking adds etc. IE was there first, and will get more attention from the masses... MEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Ce n'est pas parce qu'ils sont plus nombreux à avoir tort qu'ils ont forcement raison." - Coluche (French humourist)

Let burst them with their security holes.

bla bla -

All you people who say that IE is fine, I challange you to do a clean install of XP on any system and use IE to browse the web for a few hours without using any 3rd party software. The ammount of spyware you will have will be rediculous. Sure you can download any number of free 3rd party apps to prevent this but when you're spending that much money for an operating system from the largest company in the world, don't you think that it should work from the word go?
IE7 may be great, it may have the security of Firefox or Safari (which are far superior) but the fact is that it should have been this way from the word go.
As for whoever said that 92% of the people cant be wrong, you sir, are an idiot. Just because 92% of people use it that makes it ok for you? I'll be happy when a day comes when people can think for themselves.

Whats the chances of it having tabbed browsing? And a popup filter such as Maxthon? If not- im sticking with maxthon for sure!

ms rips off apple????. when did apple come out with their own browser???hmmm ok then.

Ok...Everyone needs to chill with the slamming of everyone elses browsers. It's a bit ridiculous.

I'm going to withhold judgement until I can actually try the browser. If I like it better than my current browser then I'll use it instead. If not, then I'll keep using Firefox. End of story.

Besides, it's just a few screenshots of a pre-release. For all anyone knows, it might be very different by the time any of us can get our hands on it.

And give it a rest with the "IE is ripping off Firefox." It's stupid. Everyone borrows from everyone nowadays. If you look at the early versions of Mozilla, do you know what it reminded me of? Netscape. Do you know what the current default theme for Firefox reminds me of? An older version of Internet Explorer. Does it matter? No. What matters is how functional the browser is and how secure it is. I don't think anyone can tell any of that just by looking at a few screenshots.

firefox pwns, ei will never be as good.

yes Firefox is the best.

Wow, I knew there were some die-hard MS fanboys out there, but to proclaim that IE the "best" browser is just way beyond anything I though was possible.

As anyone who designs websites or web based applications can tell you, IE is terribly broken. IE 6 is to the Gecko browsers (or Safari / Konq) as Netscape 4 was to IE 5. And this is just on the rendering / DOM front. Saying IE is insecure is almost redundant at this point... IE has practically become the *definition* of insecure.

Much like those who stuck with Netscape 4 over IE 5, those still using IE 6 in this day and age are either ignorant, delusional, or just plain retarded.

IE sucks period. its too f**king slow.

MY BROWSER CAN WHIP YOUR BROWSER'S A**!! Who honestly cares.

You know, does it really matter? I'm using IE now. Five minutes ago I was using Firefox. 10 minutes ago I used lynx. 96% of people can't be wrong? 86% of people couldn't tell you that anything except IE exists. but in the end that doesn't matter. I'm choosing to withhold judgement until it actually comes out. Hopefully they won't longhorn it and take every promising feature out until another realease.

Since using Firefox, i've been able to stop taking v1agra pills... yes, firefox is THAT rock-solid. :D

Does it really matter. IE7 ain't gonna pay my bills and hell neithers firefox, safari, konqueror etc etc etc. They are just frickin internet browsers. Most of these posts I'd consider to be internet grafitti and i really can't believe i've sat here and read all this dribble let alone felt compelled to reply to it. What's happened to the world?

All you firefox faggots need to try Maxthon and then quit your bitchin about IE.look at dev dates and you will see Maxthon came out way earlier than Firefox..Now tell me who is ripin who.. then shut your Pie Hole!

Simply like Firefox.... Billy, work pls!

[quote]Does it really matter. IE7 ain't gonna pay my bills and hell neithers firefox, safari, konqueror etc etc etc.[/quote]

As a matter of fact it DOES matter. You obviously are just another point and clicker roaming the web and have no idea of the frustrations involved for people that DO make their money developing for the web or have an income that is related to the internet.

Since 86% of the ignorant cows out there use IE, you must develop with cross browser compatibility in mind.

IF THE BROWSER USED BY THE 86% OF PEOPLE ON THE NET IS A BROKEN PILE OF CRAP, THEN THAT MAKES 86% OF THE WEB IS A BROKEN PILE OF CRAP... PERIOD

The beauty, flexibility and promise of CSS in web development is being held ransom by a company so irresponsible as to make their web browser an essential part of their OS, building it upon proprietary standards and then letting it languish into an insecure, standards incompatible garbage heap once they won the market share.

It is my opinion that it would have been better in the long run, for MS, it's share holders, and the world if the DOJ had gone ahead and separated MS. IE would have been on it's own to suffer the pressures of competition and that would have given motivation for it's evolution.

But, as I suspect the world knows, in America, you can get away with murdering your ex-wife, be a pedophile or hold back the advancement of technology and control economies if you have enough money to buy the finest layers and your ego is big enough to fuel your perception that doing the right thing, morality and obeying standards and law doesn't apply to you.

That's the reality as some of us see it and they are impassioned about it.

sadejester ==> try 28 which is probably more then most of you whiners

Hello?! Some people pay their bills thanks to the net! This has a name: development. Then, sh*t the f*ck up please.

So ... Maxthon ... Hello dude!? Can I laugh?
Maxthon is a IE-based browser. Are you really crazy?
Oh! Listen! I think your Your mom' is calling you ... ciao!

See you on a safer and a more compatible web.

to the maxthon thing..

I use it and yeah it is based on IE.. but I feel it is far superior to Firefox. I am sure Firefox's code has some of Netscape(a good bit I bet) and even some of IE. I chose Maxthon as it offers way more USEFUL features than Firefox and yes as the guy said before it was out WAAAY before Firefox.. so who then is copying who?

I feel as though everything that needs to be said about the insecurity of IE has been said already. I'd just like to stress once more to the IE users among us that the rational among us are not saying that any particular browser. We are saying, however, that IE simply is not a good browser overall, simply because it's so vulnerable. That's not opinion - that's simple fact, and any Internet security professional who's in their right mind could tell you that.

who thought this was a screen shot? this is the work of an idiot

About Maxthon, this IE-based browser:
"so who then is copying who?"

- we don't talk about "copy" but about security! do you understand what security is? (it's, i.e., a way to surf the web without need of third parties apps to clean up your system after each session)
- Maxthon as all IE-based browser is targetting the windowz users. Hello!?! windowz is out of date! Do you know MacOS? Do you know Linux (and the thousand of distros)? Do you know BSD? Do you know Unix? Hello!?! You're not alone on this planet!

Well ... Maxthon is a cool IE-based browser. No future. That's all.

I find it funny that all thru this post that when someone stands up for IE or states they like a browser other than Firefox they get insulted. However the insults are entirely rhetorical(do you know blah blah blah-helllllooo?????) Well instead of throwing out insults why don't you throw out some real knowledge. Back up your claims with some real facts. Make your point in a intellectual non-condescending way. So to answer this "Do you know MacOS? Do you know Linux (and the thousand of distros)? Do you know BSD? Do you know Unix? Hello!?! You're not alone on this planet!"

my response is what do you know?

"my response is what do you know? "

Amazing ... Totally amazing ...

In fact I'm an idiot. I know anything. I'm totally stupid. A real crappy dude. A silly boy.

OK? Satisfied?

Now I'm going to delete my linux partition, come back to windowz, the only and only one, and surfin' the web with IE (or Maxtor, why not). Yeah. I missed that so much...

"my response is what do you know? "

he, guy, with all of my respect, it's not a response but a question.

the solution is: open your eyes. see by yourself.

it's just another browser...

lmao @ "My first proof why ie sucks
http://toadstool.se/journal/images/friends-dont-let-friends-use-ie.jpg "

The most toolbars I've personally seen is 3 and I thought THAT was funny...

Computers infected with adware/spyware/virus = jobs = money :) (or something like that)

For miserly of memory:
1/ about:config (in the URL bar)
- browser.cache.memory.capacity => set to a lower value

Ok? Now, how do you do this in IE?

aTipAmong1001

Go Tools -> Internet Options -> Then under "temporary internet files" go Settings and you can change it in there!

Hi! Não falo inglês! Somente português e um pouco de espanhol! Sou brasileiro! Moro em São José do Rio Preto - SP! E-mail: euwilliam25@hotmail.com! FUI!

funny pix, but spybot doesnt recognize 150,000+ types of spyware. So it's obviously a photochop by a firefox-fanboy. And with that said... OPERA DOMINATES BEEACHES!!!

sorry, 'Anonymous' is right.. that looks like Ad-Aware.

lol @ "Hello?!"

use any browser as long as it gets you what you need. just like u would drive any car as long is it takes you where you need to go.

Kk this is getting a bit rediculous.

All those people calling firefox fireflop, saying that its ***, having a go, reconing it has to be the best because it came free with a box with a shiny Windows logo on the side, and saying it has to be the best because a) you're too afraid to download anything else and anything scary must be evil, and b) microsoft are a huge company... get real.

Firefox is open source, and doesn't mind people borrowing its code. As long as the company that develops the code releases their program under the same open source licence. That means that people are free to use it for what they want. Thats free as in freedom.

Ok, Firefox isn't origional. What is? Windows was built from software bought from another company for chists sake. What is origional is the extensions that firefox users pump out. For free. Has your copy of windows got capabilities to move forward and backwards in your history my mouse gestures, Minority Report style? Can you keep your taskbar clutter-free using tabs? Can you theme your browser? Does your browser support web standards?

MSIE fucks with web-code. People who have no experience (or have made three websites using ms frontpage or think that their MSN space or freewebs template is a website) cannot appriciate how ANNOYING it is to have to code your site correctly for every browser except one, then have to try and rearrange your otherwise perfectly valid site just so MSIE 'illigal' markup doesnt make your site look like balls.

I ask again, how many of you have used firefox for more than 10 minutes, and was that your own copy of firefox or did you use someone elses? Did you even realise you could theme it? Did you install even one extension?

If you want your browser to provide you with lots of cheap v1agara and t33n p0rno and spyware, and for it to look like everyone elses browser so there is no origionality, sure, use MSIE.

I try to avoid being negative because it shows you off as some kind of zealot and it makes what you support look bad.

But everyone else is and it makes me mad. Ignorant people. That includes people that say 'Firefox is the bestist M$ie is a bag of wank' or 'safari is good everything else is ***'.

The Browser Statistics are IE 6 is 61.1
Firefox is 25.6.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Most of these are probably from schools cause at my school we own somewhere around 700 computers all on IE and we have more spyware and adaware problems than you can believe.
Firefox is teh sh*ts so suck it you f*cking IE users.

Typical MS, wait for others to design a good browser, then copy it. It’s fine as long as their browser uses and 100% supports all of the web standards as recommended by the W3.org. It would be fantastic to have full CSS1 and CSS2 support. I'm sick and tired of making all these IE HACKS to get my clients web sites to work properly in IE.

"And now more and more people are using Firefox, more security holes were discovered."

At least those holes were fixed within a few days (which is something MS hardly ever achieves) and thanks to this no exploits for them had appeared yet (which means nobody was able to actually take advantage of these security holes). Also the vulnerabilities were not as critical as most of IE's are.
Other unsafeties that IE has are ActiveX (which allows for installing plugins (spyware!!!) or even editing files) and the fact that it's embedded in the Windows OS (so if you hack into IE, you have an open door to certain parts of the OS). And don't tell me it's just a program shipped with the OS like Notepad, it really IS embedded. And yes, ActiveX objects can access files as easily as they can show you an animation. I'm a programmer and I've tried it out.
And the last thing: don't argue some sites look wrong in Firefox. That's because Firefox complies to the W3C standard completely, and IE doesn't. IE has its own standard in which some sites are written, which Firefox, Opera, Safari and Konqueror don't recognise.
And the comment about the uptime is right: it's 15 days now. Linux servers measure their uptimes in months, or not at all.

Looks nice.

Barbie,
http://computing.net/office/wwwboard/forum/4710.html & http://computing.net/office/wwwboard/forum/4699.html

Look you guys IE 6 is FOUR YEARS OLD! Firefox gets an update about every two months. And for you maxthon users I use maxthon and firefox and maxthon is great but I still prefer Firefox.

This is like to Ass Penis

As part of a team that develops multimillion dollar web apps, we wouldn't think of developing them for anything else than IE. It's ubiquitious and it works...isn't this a silly, irrelevant conversation. Use what you like and what works for you. Why feel the need to be a browser missionary. If you want to use a kick ass program, try Groove from Groove Networks (http://www.groove.net). It's clever and original, browsers are not.

whine, whine, whine, spend a few bucks get McAfee Security Suite 7.0,I never get viruses, spam or spyware it's all caught before it infect my computer with GREAT SECURITY SOFTWARE...which by the way integrates well with IE 6.0 Plus and Outlook....so If your too cheap and have to get it for free, then you can change browsers till the cows come home just to keep up with the latest security features....or just get software that is constantly updated to protect whatever you use!!

so much anger over something as silly as a browser!

Buzz

Get used to it, IE7 is going to blow FireFox away.

Kra essa porcaria comovai rodar no Ruindows vai continuar dando os mesmos paus!!!!
De ante mão prefiro o firefox!!!

only opera
it is strongest of brower

Why so much IE/Microsoft hatred? Geez, give them a chance... at least USE the browser before you shoot it down...

Bueno aqui yo soy el unico que habla español por lo que veo pero quiero ser algun dia como ustedes hasta mucho mejor que ustedes por eso ia tengo varios proyectos para unirme al grupo de las personas mas sofisticadas de ese lugar para realizar juntro con ellos todos los proyectos!! =Þ

Wow! Safari + Firefox + Rip-off techniques = Internet Explorer 7. What a bunch of carbage. This is just a damn stopgap in an attempt to fight Firefox.

Bill gates and his band of theives, known as microsoft can shove IE7 Where the sun doesnt shine :)

I have used 4 browsers ie,opera,ff and konky (linux).The only one i took a dislike to was opera but only cos it was cluttered.But they all displayed webpages exactly the same except for sites which used commands that only ie use,but that is due to bad webpage building not the browser.No browser is secure or we would not need firewalls and anti-virus programs to protect us or a never ending stream of updates.I really cant see why your all argueing about this.

Ok, to the person who said do a clean install of windows xp and browse the web for a few hours, well, ive had a clean install of Windows XP for about 3 weeks now, and still no spyware on my PC. (Its a clean install only cause I bought the PC 3 weeks ago, I havent had one problem with IE yet)

Also, people who are dissing Bill Gates saying he made IE7 look like ****, get your facts straight, Bill Gates is no longer the CEO of Microsoft.

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,14779,00.asp

Steve Ballmer is the new CEO of Microsoft and runs the show.

Also, for people talking about the security issues on IE7, shut up. You have no clue how secure or unsecure it is, and you wont untill its released.

To the person who said its been 4 years since IE had a major update to it, wrong, it has major updates all the time. Not to long ago when SP2 was released of XP, it had a MAJOR update to IE to fix alot of security issues and also added a pop-up blocker. IE7 has also been announced to have a beta release this summer, which will include more security fixes.

Also, the only was to really get spyware or adware, is when you go to sites that normally have it, like I said earlier, i've been on IE for 3 weeks and my system is clean. I havent had to run a adware or spyware removal program yet. Visiting pornography sites and serial key crack sites and other sites that should be trusted are the kinds of sites that include the Spyware programs which infect your computer.

You can also get them by opening emails from people you dont recognize. When you get spyware, its pretty much your own fault. (And you can get Spyware and Adware from any Browser, FF isnt 100% safe from it either)

On another note, Microsoft is the largest Software company in the world. IBM is not a software company, they are a hardware company. Get your facts right.

Sheesh. I'm also a huge Firefox supporter. I can't say that this is good. And yes, it is much like Safari in some ways. This is a p.o.s., now that I see it again....

Bart made a nice but conservative speech, be more liberal, people! And that's not just in politics!

I used Firefox and I'm never looking back, unless IE does some HUGE thing with IE7.

Shuai
http://www.ishuai.org/
shuaibao[at]gmail[dot]com

when ie7 is released - i'll try it. currently i'm using firefox (drifting towards opera now tho). i love tabbed browsers - we've all had our anti-microsoft moments, but where would all us windows users be without them?

If it has tabs, I'll drop Firefox in a heartbeat. Otherwise, no dice.

Just wish it would come out already

Right then,
It looks like I dont have too tell you all about IE and FF but where is the compotision, SPEED - Depends on your ******* Connection, STYLE - Depends on your ******* Taste
But if you want to see something great
i use IEFFE you know what that sands for - Internet Explorer Firefox Edition - Basicly Im just so lucky to have downloaded that .......

Look is that a AOL sign in the top right

wow u guys are **** RETARDED!... argue with facts dammit... as someone said it comes down to TASTE!!! ***, why don't u zealous die hart extremist supporters strap bombs on your back and blow yourself in front of Microsoft or apple! (not that i condone that behaviour, I'm making a point!)

grow up people. it doesn't make a difference what u use, it gets you on the net, right?

Boy you firefoxers are total idiots. Don't you know that Firefox stole its tabs from versions of Word and Excel from years back? Boy the insecurity of people to stupid to make money off of software. There is a reason you firefoxers are still living with your parents and still playing your Sega Genesis. You are losers!

jman is right. You "Fire-crash" people are idiots. Open souce is the buggiest crap and to boot it is so overhyped as being "almost as good as MS". If crashing and wondering if linux virus writers (redundant?) really realize how buggy Fire-crash is, is your cup of tea, crash on! Fire-crash is release everyday and still the buggiest software on the planet because it is written by a bunch of morons that think their is a future in Linux. Isn't the fact you people are broke a good indication that Linux doen't pay? Oh yeah, jman is right. Linux losers.

if "everyone" likes the look and feel of firefox, and IE7 now supposedly looks like firefox - isnt that a good thing? I say thats good research on the part of Microsoft.

Who cares who made it first! Microsoft might have something novel to contribute with IE7 - and if they do, i'd be disappointed if firefox and the other browsers didnt make use of the contribution aswell.

Hey everyone, why are most people flaming MS they havnt done f**k all, most of you probaby use a MS product so eat s**t, Firefox my a** more like Firefart.
IM OUT!

MS ROCKS THE S**T

Tim, you're an idiot.

NOOOO, MS ROCKS!

The only Real complaint about the functionallity of IE is that it will not support Transparent PNG/MNG images properly, it always puts a box around it and requires extra web coding to display properly.

Alright, I installed Longhorn to give it a shot (definately not ready for release). It has IE7 built in. Yes, that is definately an IE7 screenshot. The search bar can be clicked on and a dropdown menu will give you an option of your search engines.

I was impressed with the lack of clutter in the toolbar area, it left alot of room on my screen for looking at the webpage I'm visiting and not a ton of buttons.

While I uninstalled Longhorn, the limited experience I did have with it was a pop-up free surfing experience with a great UI. The truth be told as hesitant as I have been about MS over the last few years, I think they're starting to understand the consumer market.

Once IE7 is released, I will probably stop using firefox and use IE again as it will give me better website compatability with what appears to be the same stability.

Microsoft is starting to learn to take their time and make stability, efficiency and security more important than how long it will take to get it on the shelves.

All in all, I'm impressed and I'm looking forward to seeing the final releases of both IE7 and Longhorn (Vista).

I've been reading all the comments abotu IE vs. Firefox. And I have a few things to say...

Firstly, Firefox rocks, and there's no doubt about it. IE despite his usage statistics is not the best browser in the universe. I read someone saying that IE had 92% of usage because it comes with windows. I think it's true, but I also think that firefox would have a lot more of vulnerabilities discovered if it was just as popular.

Second, the fact that microsoft copies stuff from everywhere else I think should be taken in a different way (I'm not saying it's ok tho). Considering IE has 92% I think it's good microsoft it's making a better browser even if they steal ideas. Let's face it, not every user it's a computer expert (I think that's the main reason why Windows sells more than Linux), and if any of u were Bill Gates you wouldn't go and say "hey, IE comes with windows, but firefox it's better", instead u would do exactly the same, copy what's in the market. Let's get real, Firefox it's the natural evolution of browsers, is what common sense tells you comes next. Firefox it's great.

As for Windows Vista, I'm pro windows, I've always been just for one reason: Windows software requirements are marketing oriented, user oriented, they worry a lot about the user and those computer illeterate ppl that also use computer (anyone who says that they shouldn't it's obviously doomed to mediocrity). I look forward to installing Windows Vista Beta 1 not only to see all the new stuff, but also cuz that Beta1 is a developer beta release, it was made for developers to try on new techs such as avalon or winfx.

I'm not tryin to pick a fight with anyone, so don't get it on me, get in on the arguments.

diego.ferreyra@gmail.com

Why are so many people picking on IE? Microsoft is the biggest Software Corporation in the world for a reason! Their products are well made!

Even if they are almost copys of other products, at least you know they'll do their job. And if they don't, you know the embarressed Microsoft will put out a patch or service pack soon as.

I've downloaded the beta of IE7 from a site I shall not name, and it is good. Nice speed, Nice look, Nice and familliar.... Nice.

Think something else like firefox is the way? Look at the commonplace Browser. In recent surveys the usage of IE has increased and Firefox has decreased by the same percentage figure. (Not that any other browser has a foothold on IE anyway).

Microsoft Rules!
And so do I!

Metal forever!!!!!

knedle...You Say So Cuz You've No Idea Of How MS Lays On The Wolrd Afterwords...How They Impact Your -Non "Browser" Hours- You Lame ***.

IE's are damn fuckers!!!

"...Posted By: Nex
Date: 8/3/2005 3:30:41 PM

Alright, I installed Longhorn to give it a shot (definately not ready for release). It has IE7 built in. Yes, that is definately an IE7 screenshot. The search bar can be clicked on and a dropdown menu will give you an option of your search engines..."

So Now MS Cares...RLMDBMFAOTF

Love This Subject...As Much As I Enjoy Reading Ignorance. The More Stupid You Become The Smarter I Get. Thank You. By Allan

I have internet explorer 7 (ie7) and if you want it just email me:

dapaintballer331@gmail.com

I love Mozilla FireFox and Opera navigator, the IE it's a ***!!!

Yeah Renato... the Internet Explorer It's a SHHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! indeed!!!!!!!!!

I love the Mozilla also

IE sucks

The only reason 82% of the market is owned by IE is because micro$oft built it in windows. That 82% is just too lazy to boder looking for another option, they just stick with IE without knowing it´s security issues, not only that, IE offers nothing to the user, not tabbed browsing for a simple example. Come on!!!!!!! It SUCKS. Do yourselves a favor and choose another, any will be better.

I completely agree w/pipos comments...

So many young people not understanding, so many old people forgetting we all start somewhere and we get set in our ways. all comes out in the wash just use more soap. I have use all of the IE"S ,FF"S OP"S AND NETS"S and so on I have found all have flaws just use what you are happy with and let others growup and make up thier mind on thier own.

IE is the best since many websites still does not support firefox(banking related SSL secure sites)
Hope firefox will be supported universally.
Hope IE 7 will rock everyone out!!!

IE7 will be the best , because it is a full source of other browsers .

Microsoft's antics just go to demonstrate why their dominance is in nobody's interest.

Back in the old days, Netscape came along and ruled the roost with the best browser. Uncle Bill got scared... the internet had arrived and MS had poopooed it. But people continued to use it. Eventually Bill gave up and decided he couldn't beat it.

So he and his company embarked on a campaign to destroy NS by various methods. Sure, they built a better browser. But some of the other methods attracted the wrath of anti-trust authorities everywhere.

Once NS was sidelined MS did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with their browser for about 6 years. After wiping out the competition by fair means and foul, they simple didn't need to improve it. Same with MS Office. Wipe out the competition then continue to ship a product that is essentially Office 97 (or even 95) will a few graphical tweaks.

Firefox has come along and MS was unconcerned. Because FF was better but MS was only interested in the number of people using it. Once it started to get market share, all of a sudden MS starts to think maybe they should do something with their outdated browser (other than patch it!!).

Now Microsoft is not really interested in browsers anymore. They're not really interested in anything in fact, except money and power and market share. They're just putting a bit of effort in to narrow the gap and ensure they stem the tide of people leaching to FF and Opera. Then they'll watch how things go for a few more years.

Now they've moved on to search. MS says it's great we have a choice - it is. But it's pretty certain they'll do their best to not just compete but also to put google out of business. While they're doing it, they'll stick loads of money into 'search'. Once it's done, they'll do nothing.

The people on this page saying FF and Opera are rubbish are people who have not made the adult decision to try both for a week and get used to them. IE is vintage 1998 technology and features. Things have come a long way since then...

I dont hate microsft,but I have dscverd , and strange to say,i have been just like a mouse in ms lab.!!!!!....?

I am sory i cannot write well.
I have found ,I have been just like a mouse in ms lab.!!....

y doen't M'Soft try something on its own ??

thanks for coments.(I HAVE TRIED 3TIMES!)

Next time use the PrintScreen Button.
=)

yar, this is something very interesting. Microsoft is just borrowing the ideas of other successful browers. Looks like Microsoft is out of innovations and original ideas - ha ha "rocket science". Microsoft is really rocketing when it comes to copy others.

Well I am a web designer and I am doing this work for more than 4 years. I have found IE a useless browser when it comes to build a website with CSS controlled layout.
Firefox is the clear winner and the fastest Browser I have experienced ever. There is no doubt about that. Thats why Firefox became such a success story after all. And with its new avatar Firefox 1.5, firefox has once again beaten the hype of IE7.

I am not against Microsoft but Microsoft is slowly loosing its grip. Mozilla has taken its revenge in browser war against Microsoft.

We think that it would be better to use the print screen button near the Num Lock light. THe text on the button looks something like this on our keyboard:

Print
Screen
______
Sysrq

Next you have to put the image in a scanner and replace http://bink.nu/photos/news_article_images/images/9239/500x333.aspx with the image recieved on the scanner. Now please; do it NOW (sheesh, can barely see the windows buttons even with super vision)

Hey uh, sorry about Flash; he's a little impaitent for the download of Internet Explorer 7 to be released.

i hate every single one of you f***ing "ie haters". what is wrong with you explorerists. you keep puttin' the the big blue lowercase e down. hey even i use mozilla you god damn fire fox explorerists. i dont care what anyone says. i know that ie OWNs every single browser ever opposing it. INTELEKTA i am on your side. and bharath's and bob's and espceccially yours Ben and sujane365microsoft's and a few people i'll mention later. who the hell says that ie really sucks. or that ie is really stealing s*** from other browsers. orange.acid you help my point and Bill gates Dad, why the f*** are you going against and talking about your son like this? your just a damn imposter. by the way f*** you Evilware. you too jdjs you d***. your a firefox supremist and firefox supremists= gigantic masturbated f***ing d***wads. and youBUNCHofSPANNERS: you are aBUNCHofS*** just like that name you used. marto your just being a ***. dapaintballer331@gmail.com is the next person im e-mailing. and Blland shut up. ill have more to say later but if you f***ing explorerists have sometin to say then say it louder cause i dont here enough to ever be convinced.

Why don't you people get friggin lives? Last time I checked, you're sitting on your computer bitchin about what web browser the other person uses. My god, leave your parent's basements.

You cannot even start comparing the two browsers. Just browse through the TONS of extensions built for firefox. I cannot browse without many of them. Adblock for instance lets u block zillions of ads. I can go on and on about the extensions - which are built by the community at large. Everything MSoft builds is built by its own IE team, and even if the team thinks a feature is cool, mgmt may veto it down cuz blocking ads will make advertisors hate msoft. IE is a quality browser, but Firefox is far more superior.

I have a copy of the latest windows os . windows vista with IE7 is a ripoff there are new and exiting features but they are all rip offs ... as for IE7 there is no question that even with the new features it si still MS based application and we all know that it will never compare with new open source applications ... if you want a good browser stick with firefox and switch to linux because microsoft just does not cut it...

Okay guys...so I am a girl and all that. You might think I do not know diddley about squat, but.....

Since 1985 I have been using computers (probably before some of you were born) and I have this to say about MS, FF, and all those other platforms that have browsers on them. A browser is a browser is a browser. All browsers are NOT created equal. Some are good about security, others are good at usability, and yet even others are good at both. Yes, FF is a child of Netscape (after all, both come from the same company (Newsflash: Mozilla is a child of Netscape too!)). Is IE7 ripping off FF? Possibly. Is IE7 full of security flaws? Probably (but then, unless it is Linux based Konquorer, every PC based browser will have some security issue somewhere). All this bashing of browsers just shows one of two things: a) Either you are still childish as an adult. or, b) You are still under the age of 13.

Either way-let us take a wait and see attitude before bashing in the windows at the Redmond office and demanding a standards compliant browser from that fellow who said he created Windows to begin with (when in actuality I think he ripped off the Woz and Jobs when he worked at Apple way back when).

'Nuff Said!

It is an exact copy to firefox. What is new for ie7 already is old for the users of firefox as the tabs, the search bar to the right, etc. And the security is going to be equal to that of all the internet explorer.
IE is a *** as windows !!!
Godd luck with the new windows!! Hahahahha

It is indeed good to see new releases of IE.

It is bad that the latest/best Microsoft can offer is a browser with "hacked" xhtml suport, missing CSS classes and no application/xml+xslt media type (see ms developers blogs - just search the web).

This new version will probably make MS get back on the race (even if they are still on top, the other browsers were caching up pretty quickly).

What users must understand is simple... browsers are browsers, choose the right one for you. And also at least consider the alternatives. BTW... do you think MS would have done IE7 if there Firefox was not grabbing market share (up to 20% in Europe)? I think not... let's look at the last reason to make an upgrade (from IE5 to IE6)... they needed to make the final "kill" of the old NS4 browser.

I downloaded the IE7 beta and it is SLOW! It is so slow that it took almost a minute to open a single WINDOW, when NOT EVEN CONNECTED to the Internet. I uninstalled this. Also, I hate the Address bar on the top and the "built in Security" like the "Phishing Filter" (useless) and the "Information Bar" (annoying)constantly coming up for everything.
Microsoft wants a browser that looks like the rest of Windows. This one doesn't and is uncomfortable to use. I looked through "Internet Options" to see if there is any way to ues the old skin, but there isn't.
This doesn't look like IE with its ugly blue interface that is not needed (people view WEB PAGES in their browser, not just the browser window).

New Features: (Compared to IE6)
- RSS Feed support.
- Renders web pages better (Unconfirmed, my IE-dependent Internet client was unable to connect to the Internet with this installed).
- Uglier, unfamiliar skin (a problem for most IE, FireFox, or Opera users).
- Slower.
- Takes more HD space (not that it matters much, but considering that MS is removing IE DirectAnimation support, Gopher, CDF, etc., it should be faster).
- Memory usage increased from about 20MB (with 9 windows open) to 32MB (with one window open).
- Useless "security" that simply slows my PC even more.
- CPU usage meter went up much higher.
- More frequent system crashes.
- Must press Crtl-Alt-Del repeatedly to regain control of my PC.

Remedy:
- Remove it with "System Restore"
(Uninstall leaves behind some things like the "Click here to use this ActiveX Control" that appears whenever I try to use an ActiveX control (Used in alot more sites than you think)).
- Install Firefox, Opera, or any other browser.

This piece of garbage will probably be Autodownloaded by MS Automatic Updates, so people have no choice.