Looks like he has a load of Hardware that is not compatible yet (no proper vista drivers). That doesn't mean the os is still beta though, just means the manufacturers of his hardware are very slow.

If the rest of the article says anything different I will stand corrected, but I can't access it at the moment.

Same shit when Windows 2000 came out and people started crying Windows 95 was better .. same shit, different OS

You're right, but it wasn't just with Win2k, same shit was said about XP in Sept 2001 when they released that.    "I'm staying with 2k, XP is just eye candy."  If some obscure 3rd party app or hardware device doesn't have Vista support yet, how is that MS's problem?  

They try to have drivers for as many devices as they can, but they're not going to sit around and wait for 3rd parties to get off their assess and make drivers or upgrade their software before they release their own product,  get real people.

Michelr,

I think you'll find that's exactly his point, (and also my experience!)

The first offerings are usually poor, when the hardware catches up, and Microsoft get it's customers to find all the bugs and feedback on "features" that "don't work", eventually the O/S is honed.

Microsoft need people like you who are prepared go with "bleeding edge" software... Well done, stick with it! 

 

Late beta? I take it Pirillo has never even used beta software or he'd know the difference between buggy beta software and a quality shipping product...

I love his reasoning though, most of the reasons arent even problems with the OS but are problems with ISVs and hardware manufacturers.

Now Bink, just why is this news?

im still running rc2 (installed on 3 laptops sony/sony/hp), works perfectly. faster bigger better. every app/game works fine. apart from a cheap and nasty webcam. but it did work (xp drivers), just cant find the cd anymore.

 

If no one were to move to Vista, what incentive is there for the venders to support it?

Why wouldn't he just run XP virtual when he needs to use those specific things.  I can wait to hear the crying if he burned his XP key doing a upgrade...

well i kinda agree with him, im running vista 32 bit for 20 days, and it does gave me few errors, like few things has tobe closed kinda things, dont recall file names now. also when i tried to run dreamscene, it runs for short time and then crashed. well i dont hate vista infact i love it but its not perfect, it has problems if not bugs. but i do hate the manufactures for not making all drivers yet that worked on xp as i dont see why they cant work on vista, like stupid logitech.

I've been running Vista 64-bit since November when it first RTM'd and I've had absolutely no major problems with the OS. All but one of my pieces of hardware work perfect. All the applications I run even work great.

I have an MP3 player from Philips that doesn't have drivers for Vista yet, but so I setup a dual boot with XP.

Maybe I should be like all these idiots and blame it on Microsoft for not writing device drivers for all the thousands of third party devices. C'mon, get real!

Honestly though, who didn't see this coming?

Chris has had it out for Vista for some time now.  I'd argue that he doesn't want to like it and therefore can't.  That's his problem.

I've been running Vista since Beta 2 and I've been running the RTM since release.  I had one device (that I cared about) that is unsupported in Vista and doesn't appear to be getting support from the manufacturer.  I've since replaced that ATSC tuner card with another from that manufacturer which had beta Vista drivers.  Nearly a month after wide spread public release, I still only have beta drivers... but I get by.

While I can appreciate why Chris is frustrated, Vista is not about legacy.  I still have a laptop that I run Windows 95 on.  The 486DX2-50 with 800x600 monochrome graphics, 8 MB of RAM and a 160MB harddrive is not a prime candidate for Vista either.

Funny, all the excuses made for Microsoft - their inability to provide thousands of hardware drivers, is not used when damning Linux distros. Which is it guys?

I have always used a Windows OS and always had yteh latest version of the OS installed on my PCs. Also this time: I installed Visat and for me it works fine. I do not have exotic hardware: just an HP laptop with a brother printer/scanner. Both vendors ahve the vista drivers on their websites and everything works fine for me.

But I am thinking more and more why I actually pay for an OS license. The only thing I do with my home PC is browsing, reading some mail, printing a document and work a litle bit in spreadsheets.

I now experimenting more and more with Linux and it does whatever it is supposed to do for me.

andrew, I have always had a pain in the ass trying to get my video cards to work great with linux so shut up. Also, I think the beta 2 version of this release was insainly stable and we had it deployed in production environments all over the company to test it. Every CTP I installed was near perfect. I hate this guy Chris, if you have a viewer base who depends on you for information, it would be a good idea to have a completely open view or at least give the otherside a shot. Not this bash and whine method. He is promoting everything that sucks about idiots and pcs.